• CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 months ago

    Important detail before everyone gets railed up about the rage bate headline:

    The five biggest Dutch cities are urging the government to let them ban fatbikes, e-scooters and other motor-powered vehicles from cycle lanes to prevent “total chaos,” the Telegraaf reported on Wednesday.

    I have no clue about dutch regulations of light electric vehicles like e-scooters, but the (overall not quite detailed) article talks about demands for a speed limit (30km/h), I assume there is not much regulation (yet). In that case, this seems to be a reasonable demand.
    For comparison, german regulation says e-bikes (spedelecs) and scooters with a max speed of up to 25 km/h belong on bike paths, everything with a higher max speed needs a license, insurance and plates and is prohibited from using bike paths.
    25 km/h (or 30) can seem quite fast but is not too hard to achieve so these speeds are not unusual for bike paths.

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      4 months ago

      S-Pedelecs (S for speed) are specifically those that go up to 45 km/h. The 25 km/h ones are simply pedelecs. 25 km/h is a regular biking speed for average fitness drivers.

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      4 months ago

      I had been biking a trail with a 10km/h speed limit. one day I was injured and opted to take the ebike instead. the manual bike has no speed measuring but going about the same speed by feel and sight on the ebike I realized I was going around 40 even on the manual bike. Then out of curiosity I delimited the ebike and went on the road and tried going 70 and fuck that shit its the scariest fucking thing in my life.