I will say, it’s practical for everyone using the same system. Sometimes it’s nice to acknowledge an email without having to respond to it
And when I had my school account, they’d send out phishing alerts of what to look out for. Those emails would be spammed with crying laughing emojis
I just had déjà vu
Problematic undercurrents of homophobia aside, the trend paints a troubling picture of a future filled with photorealistic and eerily believable AI slop.
What a fucking incredible line
There’s no way there is a connection between the person asking the question and the shooter. It was a debate with Charlie Kirk. Of course gun violence is going to come up. Especially since it started by asking about gun violence involving trans people.
Hey, infamous is better than being forgotten. At least according to the egomaniac
But at that point, why get caught up in the semantics of the statement? Why not just simply address the concern they are raising? They aren’t being literal, they don’t mean “every single man” and getting defensive when they aren’t talking about you won’t help.
Men are not the problem, rapists are. Black people are not the problem, poverty is.
This line, do you not see how those are different? If these were the same, you would say “Black people are not the problem, thieves are” but poverty (among a hoard of other things) are what make people more like to steal. What causes people to rape? What systematic oppression made them sexually harass a woman? What hardship forced them to cat call that random woman walking by them? What tragedy caused the boss to sexually extort is employee? Do you not see how these are different still?
A government can exponentially reduce theft by taking care of people. People who do not have to worry about food and shelter do not have a need to steal. You may still have mental health issues that may lead to kleptomania or other addictions, but if people are taken care of, they generally have no reason to steal. The solution to theft is not arrest thieves more, it’s to get to the root of the problem. It’s all about proactive vs reactive.
What does a government do to stop men sexually harassing women? Arresting all the rapists in the world would be reactive, but what is the proactive approach? What stops it from happening in the first place. What is the problem that needs to be solved? Obviously, the problem is not “man” itself. But the problem is 100% among men.
‘mexicans are rapists’ is the literally exact same rhetoric as ‘men are rapists.’ there is no difference whatsoever.
Literally speaking, there is at least one obvious difference. One is a race, and one is a sex. A woman can easily go day after day of being sexually harassed by men. The odds of someone, day in a day out, being sexually harassed by just Mexicans is basically non-existent. Racism is generally caused by ignorance, political manipulation, general biases, or ideas along those lines. It is rarely from a widespread experience. At best, it’s rooted in one or two negative experiences they apply widely to the entire race.
Women that have a distrust in men exists solely from countless experiences in every area of life. There is no political manipulation happening to get people to distrust men (because men are the ones with the power), it happens because of the things many men have done to them. While obviously not all men, when it happens frequently enough it does become reasonable to just simply say “men”. And it is, indeed, happening that frequently.
Men are not the oppressors, they are a gender like any other
You seriously need to pick up some history books. Or at least read a Wikipedia page.
Stop defending bigotry and attack the actual problem, or get lumped in with the rest of the literal nazis saying the same thing you are
You seriously need a new username. The most I’ve insulted you is to say you are not being a super nice person, and meanwhile you are calling me (and rape victims, and women who complain about their abusers) bigots and nazis.
You say we need to “attack the actual problem” but what is the actual problem? The problem is not rapists, because the goal is to stop it before they rape. What caused them to rape? What was the root problem that needs to be solved?
Do you not see we need a cultural and societal shift among men? Can you not easily picture the party where the man is trying to sleep with a clearly uninterested woman? Where when someone tries to intervene, the dude gets pissed for being cock blocked, and all his bros are just trying to help him get his “dick wet”. Maybe they give her more alcohol, or maybe they peer pressure her more until she feels like she has no other choice. Or maybe, if they’re fucked up enough, they just drug her drink. This is happening constantly, and it’s super normalized. The problem is the man that was trying to pressure the woman, but it was also the friends encouraging the friend and making him feel entitled to sex. It was also any of the men that saw this happening and didn’t step up. The problem was the male role models in those mens life for not showing them how to treat women properly. Men are more likely to listen to other men, so men have to do something about it. That is why people say “men are the problem”. Then men continue to be the problem by responding to that with “you fucking bigot nazi”
Black communities have faced generations of systemic racism, segregation, economic disenfranchisement, and over-policing, all of which contribute to crime statistics. That is not the case for men in general. So even if it were true (which it’s not) it can still be explained by systemtic oppression and widespread racism.
Men are the oppressor, black people are the oppressed. It is punching up vs punching down. They are not comparable.
When an extreme majority of those rapists and abusers are men, how are men not the problem? Given the fact you are getting defensive when nobody is talking about you shows you’re a part of the problem. You’re ignoring the issue among men to get caught up in semantics. You are literally just responding by calling them bigotted. That is, once again, not a super nice thing to do. You really should use a different username.
You cannot simply ignore systematic oppression. That is a key detail when discussing societal issues.
NOBODY IS JUDGING YOU. Can you get that through your thick skull? I thought I said it time and time again in the last comment. THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE FUCKING MAN. THEY AREN’T TALKING ABOUT YOU. Stop taking shit literally and using it as an excuse to ignore their extremely real complaints.
Your biggest problem is you are reading “not all men” as a literal. Not everything has to be taken literally. Language absolutely can work that way, and very often does. When a woman talks about the countless men that have harassed her, and she says “men disgust me” and your response to that is “not all men disgust you, right” then you have completely missed the point. She is conveying the hurt that has fell upon her by many men, and that is the part that should be addressed. Not the technicalities of who she is talking about exactly. And it is absolutely incorrect if your response to that was to call her a bigot or an objectively bad person.
Comparing the black race to sexist men is also a terrible comparison. Black people have historically been oppressed. There is countless literature on just the problems black men and women have faced in the last 50 years. The systematic issues with race are an entirely different beast, and not at all comparable to the issue with men.
Men have historically been the oppressors. There is no systematic oppression they’re battling. They are the ones with the majority of the power. They are simply continuing to abuse those they either have power over, or feel they have power over.
So again, don’t get hyperfixated on this “not all men” because even when people make a generalized statement, they are not talking about LITERALLY ALL MEN, they are talking about a problem they’ve experienced enough from one common group that they are able to widely complain about it. If you went day after day of constant cat calling, womanizing, discrimination, dick picks, mansplaining, and god knows what else women have to deal with, you might be saying things like that too. I don’t know if it’s a man thing, or if some people that take these things super literally have diagnosed or undiagnosed autism, or what ever else, but they (myself included at one point) seem to not be able to understand the fact that generalized statements aren’t talking about everyone but a common issue they have.
I get it, you want them to say “Some men” or might even be fine with them saying “most men” but that isn’t going to happen when someone is fed up with the treatment they’ve faced from men. They’re fed up with the treatment they’ve faced their entire lives, and they’re saying something about it. That is not bigotry. Period.
The difference here is the frequency with all of these things. It’s easy to find a man that hasn’t been cheated on by a woman. It’s easy to find someone that hasn’t been robbed (by anyone, let alone by a black man or woman). I am not joking that I don’t think I could find a woman that hasn’t, at minimum, been sexually harassed by a man, if not assaulted.
You say “if you search hard enough you’ll find it” except one doesn’t have to search for this issue. It’s simply everywhere. Men sexually harassing women is literally everywhere. You are dismissing their evidence by suggesting “of course you can find that somewhere” suggesting the evidence they gave was too specific. But yet most porn sites are FILLED with problematic content and ads, each more specific than the next. So it’s not just about this specific “rape roleplay” scenario, it’s about all of the countless scenarios widespread across the internet.
Recognizing a systematic issue is not sexism. Trying to minimize its prevalence by saying “not all men” is problematic. And not something I would expect with the username of “superniceperson”
because most men aren’t rapists, yet a surprisingly high number of women get sexually assaulted/raped, It seems like the problem is not that most men are predators, but that our society is letting the minority that are get away with it repeatedly.
It’s much muddier than that. Most cases of rape are someone the victim trusted. And most of those cases don’t ever get reported to authorities. So there are many men may have taken advantage of a woman, and that woman see’s him as an abuser, but nearly nobody in that mans life even knows about this. The victim may stay silent for any number of reasons. There are almost definitely cases like that involving men you know, but are unaware of what they did. As for the solution to these cases? Societal norms need to change. Consent needs to be required every time no matter what. There should never be pressure for sex, and peers should not encourage pressuring a woman into sex. Instead, the man will say the person stepping in is “cock blocking” when in reality they’re defending someone who doesn’t want to have sex with them. Men will back up other men in an attempt to help their bro “get their dick wet”. They will get women drunk in hopes they will have reduced inhibitions, or perhaps so drunk they don’t even remember the night. This is not as simple as “lock up the bad guys” when very few cases of rape involve being snatched up off the street.
When I said it’s “bound to pop up” I was talking specifically about the online communities mentioned.
Gotcha, I misunderstood what you were saying. I do still disagree that groups like that are bound to pop up, at least not as much as they are right now. I think womanizing groups are far more common than dedicated racist groups online. Racism has taken a massive downward trend over the last hundred years. Of course, it is not fixed, very far from it. But I also think it is undeniable that racism is less of a problem than it was 50 years ago. That is the kind of societal change we want. If the internet were around 50 years ago, the insane number of group chats dedicated to racism would have been far larger than they are now. Bringing awareness to these issues, and especially men standing up to other men, is what will help bring a decline to the number of vocal sexist pigs and their echo chambers.
Have you talked to women about their experiences? I challenge you to find a single woman that has not been sexually harassed by a man.
This seems to be a pretty narrow view point. They’re not asking you to police other actions, but rather voice your disapproval when you see it. Nobody can control the actions of others, but it is also undeniable that men are more likely to listen to other men. To see something, and sit idly by, is comparable to supporting the action. If you do not at minimum vocalize your discontent, then you are fine with it being done around you.
Your current suggestion is that a minority of men harass 50% of the population with no societal repercussions? When that 50% that’s being harassed is like “Hey, we need help from the other 49% to bring about a societal change” your first response is to call them a bigot? In order to substantially change the harassment being done, everyone needs to step up.
As a man, it’s also reasonable to say this is nearly non existent among women. Does it happen? Of course. But not nearly to the scale it happens among men.
It’s moreso a matter of semantics. If someone says “Men are disgusting”, you don’t have to take it literally. It’s conveying the meaning that there is a large enough amount of men that are doing this that it is a massive problem in nearly every woman’s life. The saying would be a bit less valid if it was so extremely prevalent. But as it stands, I can go up to just about any young woman, and they more than likely would have (at least) been sexually harassed by a man.
So sure, with as many people as there are, it’s “bound to pop up” but saying it that way seems to undermine just how prevalent it is. And correcting a statement that expresses the sentiment that this is a large problem by saying “But not all men are bad” is counterproductive. They are talking about the systematic issue among men. You could instead respond with “Yea, we need systematic changes” or something along the lines that address the concern they are raising.
And if anyone magically finds them, they’ll dismiss it as a crazy conspiracy
Of course they’re not sure. This is an internet forum. The account being gone must mean it was deleted. Honestly, she was probably getting so much bat shit crazy messages, she deleted it herself. That makes the most sense.
3rd citation is a reference to Micro
Did they? All I see is this:
https://san.com/cc/us-strikes-isis-in-nigeria-on-christmas-day-california-battles-flooding/
It’s not clear to me of that tweet was accurate or not, or if they were just saying they requested it