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Hiya.

Apparently you know me. Want to tell me what else I won’t do today? Your prescience will save me deciding for myself.

If I ever get terminal cancer I will be infiltrating these groups and leaving a trail of eyeless psychopaths in my wake.

Hear hear!

Everyone is like “Move out of the city, live a life closer to nature” but also “If you use the only service that truly enables that you suck!”

I’ll take what I can get until something as good or better comes along.

The Inquiry:

*Opens a 7th grade social studies class textbook.

Elated to be wrong. You see, that is how being an adult works. Sometimes you are wrong, and when you are wrong about something with a positive outcome, you are happy that you were wrong.

Fair enough. I honestly didn’t mean this as an insult. I have seen the same type of review from people who join teams that I’m on when they get told about ansible.

It certainly isn’t perfect. And there was a period of time about 5 years ago where a lot of change was happening at once.

Thanks for sharing your opinion

Same question. But with 100s of playbooks, and thousands of servers. This feels like someone had a bad experience with their first 30 minutes of ansible and gave up before looking at the command reference.

I would bet we have a lot of the exact same thoughts on why this happens, and probably how to solve it. My only disagreement - and it is not a strong one - is the impossibility of forgiveness.

If they mature and leave, or even better, commit to being a monkey wrench for a bit before leaving… I think I can find space for them in my community.

I haven’t either. But I can see how a young person without a lot of knowledge of the world and the impending weight of 50 years of work ahead of them, possibly with a family to feed, or an extended family to take care of due to the inherently predatory healthcare system where they were born, might make that choice. And I understand it, regardless of “forgiveness”.

How do you go from « saying no to cash » to « c-levels are the issue » in the context of ethical considerations for engineers that enable AI in military industrial complex?

I am not sure I get what this word soup is saying. No offense intended but maybe try re-wording this if you want to discuss.

PS: foundry is not an AI platform, the engineers I am talking about are usually 20-ish year old java and python devs, and it is easier to understand how someone in that group might not even know how evil evilcorp is.

Devil’s Advocate (damn near literally this time around)

Try being a young engineer at the top of your game and saying no to an offer where the yearly salary makes google engineers jealous. Not everyone can say no.

Palantir offers like 400k/year to run-of-the-mill forward deployed engineers for foundry (Civilian platform) where the job is 99% actually helping customers with interesting engineering problems.

I can’t even imagine what they are offering folks working on gotham (govt/military side.)

I guess what I’m trying to say is that while a ton of those engineers are soulless sociopaths, some of them just took a job that pays super well and they don’t personally align with the goals of the C-levels. And in fact - a ton won’t even know what those goals are.

Remember - Our enemy is the c-suite, not the level 1 support agent. Even at evilcorp. Thankfully I am in a position where my kids are grown up and the money treadmill isn’t set on hardmode for me anymore. I can say no. But even for me it is sometimes difficult.

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No offense intnded. But your anecdote is not evidence. Many studies have been done over this for many, many years.

Perhaps you are an outlier and are more productive than the average.

Or perhaps you are misinterpreting your productivity.

Get an uncooked one and eat it. It tastes like peas.

And rusty rams parked at every bar in red deer.

I don’t know about that. My wife is in her late 40s and grew up in AB. Her education was deplorable. She is a very smart person, but her early school years were basically useless.