Ukraine war latest: EU agrees €90bn loan for Ukraine as Putin tells BBC the West is ‘making Russia the enemy’ - BBC News

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    Russia routinely makes itself the enemy by always making threats and forcing themselves on others

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    Because assassinating people all over the world makes you a trusted ally. Russia will always be their own worst enemy.

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      Look at what the west does to Iraq, Libya, Syria and other countries. How can Russia be safe if the US don’t continue arm restriction treaties and develop space weapons against MAD?

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      Came here for this. Yeah, you’re the enemy because you invaded another country, and have been trying to gaslight the rest of the world about it ever since. In fairness, though, the gaslighting has worked on one particular idiot.

  • vga@sopuli.xyz
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    We are making Russia our enemy.

    1. Poisoning of Viktor Yushchenko (2004)
    2. Energy blackmail (2006)
    3. Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya (2006)
    4. Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko (2006)
    5. Murder of Sergei Magnitsky (2009)
    6. Energy blackmail II (2009)
    7. Creation of Internet Research Agency, aka troll army (2013)
    8. Started war in Crimea, illegal annexation (2014)
    9. Started war in Donbas (2014)
    10. Shootdown and coverup of MH17 (2014)
    11. Started supporting dictator Assad in Syria (2015)
    12. Assassination of Boris Nemtsov (2015)
    13. U.S. election interference I (2016)
    14. French Election interference (2017)
    15. Sergei Skripal poisoning (2018)
    16. Brexit referendum influence (2018)
    17. U.S. election interference II (2018)
    18. Tiergarten assassination (2019)
    19. Navalny poisoning (2020)
    20. U.S. election interference III (2020)
    21. COVID-19 disinformation campaign (2020–21)
    22. Full-scale invasion of Ukraine (2022)
    23. Bucha massacre (2022)
    24. Weaponization of energy against EU (2022)
    25. Forced deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia (2022)
    26. Migrant weaponization (2023)
    27. Rheinmetall CEO assassination plot (foiled) (2024)
    28. Election interference in Moldova & Georgia (2024)
    29. U.S. election interference IV (2024)

    Russia is doing nothing wrong.

    • GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world
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      Don’t forget 2015 Jade Helm Scare, where they were testing their ability to manipulate using crazy stories on social media. Russia was able to convince gov Abbott of TX to order the TX National Guard to observe training exercises in Central TX because he was convinced that Obama had ordered the army to go into Walmarts, turn them into makeshift detention facilities and was planning to round up people that voted against him in a hostile takeover of the state. Obviously, it was just a training exercise, but the fear on the right was extreme.

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      There’s chechnya war and Georgia invasion, both which happened after fall of USSR

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    1990-2013 I saw Russia as friendly’ish even when they fought in Chechnya etc.

    2014-2021 wtf. maybe they are not so good? what’s next?

    2022- Russia is definitely the enemy

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      Yeah, I remember working in the early 2000s with Russian institutes and things were really good.

      2008 was when I recall the first “wtf”, in the war with Georgia.

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    Do you mean to tell me Ukraine started this senseless war? No? Then fuck off you dumb old man.

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    Vlad and his MAGA buddies can piss in the wind. GTFO of Ukraine (includes Crimea), East Prussia, Karelia, and the Northern Territories.