• CAVOK@lemmy.worldOP
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    5 months ago

    IMHO every contract from any level in government should stipulate that data can’t leave the EU without explicit consent. That would build up EU cloud providers since the big 3 would all be excluded.

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      5 months ago

      The US PATRIOT Act makes data storage location irrelevant. If the USA sanctions your country, the cloud gets turned off whether the data centre is local or not.

      The USA is able to exercise soft power around the world because of and through its control of finance and now data.

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        5 months ago

        I think you missed OPs point. They shouldn’t use data centres of US american companies even if they’re located in the EU because they already can’t guarantee that data isn’t leaving the EU. CLOUD Act is more relevant here than the USA PATRIOT Act.

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      5 months ago

      data can’t leave the EU without explicit consent

      This is already more or less the norm for many services, because of the GDPR and the ePrivacy directive, especially if you’re handling special personal data categories, and/or the service is for a government entity. There’s some caveats to this, but on a general level that’s already how things are.

      But as was pointed out, the problem isn’t getting folks to host things in the EU since it’s not like only European companies have data centers in the EU, but to use European cloud providers. Vendor lock-in is a real issue, however; no European provider can give you what AWS or GCP can, and migrating to something else might require a lot of work depending on which services you’ve been using.

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    5 months ago

    Should Europe be prepared for the US not being as friendly as it was though?

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      5 months ago

      In my country, both sides of the political aisle are banking HARD on the shift in US politics being a minor and temporary aberration and that it’s better to just keep things moving as smoothly as possible while Trump is pope/kaiser/button-haver. No way, will we see any moves towards less reliance on the US here.