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“Following controversy, all names will be left off Canadian monument to ‘victims of communism’”
Please fix it or we’ll have to remove it.
Our title, comrade.
I would like yo see one for victims of capitalism
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I’ve had this thing hanging out for years and NOTHING. If you humans could stop bashing each other with sticks and screaming at each other about bathrooms long enough to build a proper ship to go out and socialize, we can find more civilized planets and just do drugs and laugh and laugh about stupid little green pieces of paper.
Tbf, i dont think they could name all of the African American slaves or the millions killed in the DRC.
You know the drill: Ukrainian starvation genocide = crime of communism.
When the Turkish capitalist empire does the same to Armenians, that’s just one of those things. Feels kinds commie though.
I never count the many crimes of Lenin, Stalin, and Mao as crimes of communism. Because Lenin betrayed the revolution and had the actual communists arrested so that he could cement his totalitarian dictatorship.
He lost the November 1917 election, and threw a hissy fit that caused a civil war.
Which started a long line of dictators pretending to be communists, pretending that communism requires a dictatorship.
If the State owns everything, and has police that will kill you for speaking out, then you don’t live under communism, you live under feudalism in a coat of red paint.
I never count the many crimes of Lenin, Stalin, and Mao as crimes of communism. Because Lenin betrayed the revolution and had the actual communists arrested so that he could cement his totalitarian dictatorship.
Capitalist countries killed as much so both system killed millions of people
If the State owns everything, and has police that will kill you for speaking out, then you don’t live under communism, you live under feudalism in a coat of red paint.
I would say that’s ultranationalism
There are museums for African American history which have exhibits about slavery and its victims, if you’re interested. https://www.wonderfulmuseums.com/museum/slavery-museums-in-the-united-states/
Maybe instead of people, naming the major massacres
That’s the neat part, you’re already in it!
You can even cut costs by installing a mirror
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Also, Stephen Harper, the prime minister responsible for this thing, said it would be paid entirely with private donations. Well, that was a lie, so now tax dollars are funding the thing. Which means some of my money went to this horseshit.
The symbolism is hilarious.
Bunch of mouth-foaming rightwing ideologues spending all their political capital on a monument directly implying that there are no victims of communism.
Should be victims of authoritarianism
If you visit Eastern Europe, you’ll find a lot of museums which reflect on the double disaster of Nazi occupation for years followed by Communist occupation for decades.
For now. If the trend continues across the globe those museums will be treated the way the US has been treating it’s “never forget” monuments, holidays and classroom curriculums.
Those Eastern European countries faced the ultimate rock-and-a-hard-place situation; side with the Nazis, side with Stalin, or get crushed by both (and whichever one you “sided” with wouldn’t treat you particularly well either). And they had to pick sides without knowing what the judgment of history would be.
Honestly, a rare situation where some Nazi collaborators deserve an “it was complicated” footnote, IMO. Though that’s a bit much to ask for on a stone monument like this.
It was really not that hard a choice. People seem to forget the Nazis murdered millions of Slavs.
Re-quoting from my comment:
And they had to pick sides without knowing what the judgment of history would be.
Emphasis added. They were making the choice without the benefit of that Wikipedia page from 2025 to refer to.
And Stalin was right up there with Hitler in terms of total kill-count, which is why it was a rock-and-a-hard-place situation. There was no good option available.
When one option is live under a brutal dictator and the other option is have your ethnicity wiped off the face of the Earth, there isn’t really an option, is there? The German attempt to eliminate the Slavs was not theoretical. They were massacring people in territories they occupied throughout the war. Even the vast majority of Ukrainians, who had more reason than most to hate the USSR, still picked up arms for them against the Nazis because the Nazis were just that bad.
And Stalin was right up there with Hitler in terms of total kill-count, BTW.
Basically every death in the European Theatre of WW2 can be directly blamed on Hitler and the Nazis for starting the whole thing so I have trouble believing this. I don’t know if you heard but that was a lot of people.
When one option is live under a brutal dictator and the other option is have your ethnicity wiped off the face of the Earth, there isn’t really an option, is there?
You’re still missing the point. The people living there, at that time, didn’t know what those options would ultimately lead to. They didn’t have the benefit of hindsight. And even if they did, they were right there at that moment in time, having to make decisions that would determine if they survived one more day.
Basically every death in the European Theatre of WW2 can be directly blamed on Hitler and the Nazis for starting the whole thing
Poor Stalin, I guess he had absolutely no choice in all the massacring that he did. Hitler made him do it.
The General Committee of United Croats of Canada dedicated its contribution to Ante Pavelić, who led the Nazi puppet regime in occupied Croatia in the former Yugoslavia, where around 32,000 Jews, 25,000 Roma and 330,000 Serbs were murdered by the regime. The same organisation purchased a brick dedicated to Mile Budak, a high-ranking official in Croatia’s fascist Ustaše organisation, whom it identified simply as a poet.
Of course it was anti Yugoslavia Balkan bullshit. Chetniks(if you’re a Serb expat) and Ustaše(if you’re a croat expat) did nothing wrong if your ideology must delegitimize the idea of a multicultural Yugoslav state.
Why do we have monuments for victims of communism and not monuments for victims of capitalism?
Because capitalism is the normal order of things going back for millennia.
Millennia? Fuck off. Capitalism in itself is barely a few hundred years old. Use of a designated tender (money) is NOT capitalism.
Ah, yes. It’s the first system that freshly evolved monkeys created thousands of years ago. It must surely be the best system to stick with.
This must be sarcasm.
Barely 200 years, but good effort.
Yeah because we totally had a ruling class of billionaires exploiting a sticks and shares system in Byzantine times 🤡
I clicked on this thinking it was a picture of a stick of ram
So this is going to look like an empty list and that communism didn’t hurt anyone? What a waste of space and money.
They were going to do a victims of capitalism, but then they realized it would wrap around the earth a few times.
