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    This sounds like a great idea, I might finally be able to use Linux at work in the future.

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    This is coming from someone who is pretending to think Microsoft is currently doing well and could lose some quality at the expense to introduce new features users want faster to sell an image of technology innovators or at a baseline a user friendly experience

    What is actually happening is they are trying really hard to sell Microsoft after windows 11 launch pushed a lot of users away or at least gave them an accurate impression of how MS caters to corporations and advertisers and they don’t give a shit about users as long as they keep buying computers with windows monopoly pre installed. The ‘ai is going to be good enough to replace developers’ longshot could come in 10 years or 10,000 years and is a hand wave to not understand the problem or currently available possible solutions.

    Also the interview only covers corpo interests and doesn’t include any labor or software union leaders.

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    “Our strategy is to combine AI and Algorithms to rewrite Microsoft’s largest codebases,” he added. “Our North Star is ‘1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code.’”

    Easy to achieve if the ai just wraps all code in an unsafe block ^^

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      “Our strategy is to combine AI and Algorithms to rewrite Microsoft’s largest codebases,” he added. “Our North Star is ‘1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code.’”

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      That’s OK. I’m using Linux. Perhaps this will drive more people to Linux. The less people using corporate owned tools the better.

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    Will this finally be the end of Windows?

    Also fun fact: Windows uses a lot of COM Interfaces for API, which in my opinion often makes developing for Windows a better experience, than developing for Linux. Rust does not have anything OOP related by default, and are often emulated with macros instead, like in C.

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      That’s a crazy take. I hate com and oop with a passion. If you like com that much there’s gobject for you on Linux.

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      Rust has traits and reference counting which map nicely to COM objects.

      By the way, the Linux Kernel is OOP. That’s a good choice for things like queues, file systems, and device drivers.

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    This could have been good news, however, Microsoft’s insistance on using AI, and general incompetence even without it, makes me very doubtful this will be successful.

    They are going to try and replace C and C++ written by actual experts a few decades ago, with Rust written by idiots. Expect tons of logic bugs, and very little measurable difference in memory corruption.

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        No no no you see, they’re using rust, which is a ‘safe’ language. That means it’s not possible to have security issues…

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    so glad i switched to linux in time to avoid this clusterfuck. at least on my private machines.

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    This is what you get when AI fanaticism combines with Rust fanaticism.

    1 million lines a month is 2-ish line per second. That “engineer” is just someone to blame when things don’t work. They aren’t going to be contributing anything.

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      I was about to say that surely it’s not just 1 person they are talking about. Then I read, "Our North Star is ‘1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code.’”

      WTF

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    Honestly, Microsoft should just take the L, develop Windows 12 based on a Linux kernel, and re-write most of their stuff from scratch.
    After focusing on backwards-compatibility for 40 years, they’re allowed a new start, to fix all the rotten code they inherited from the 1980’s.

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      Compatability is the only reason to use Windows anymore. If they had to compete for best distribution, then they’d rapidly lose customers.

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      Shit, with the way computer horsepower has improved over the years, how hard can it be to add a legacy Windows emulator or whatever WINE is, especially when you have the original source code available?

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        WINE is basically an adapter. It exposes a Windows API and calls the equivalent Linux APIs when invoked. That’s less overhead than an emulator which models an entire virtual piece of hardware. When you run a Windows program through WINE your computer is actually executing the code of the program just like any Linux one it’s just calling WINE libraries instead of the Windows ones it normally would.

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      A man can wish but they would never do that because of GPL and thus having to also open source anything built-in/in-top by them (afaik?)

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        They would only be obliged to open source any extra code they added to the kernel. If whatever they add lives in user space then it can be closed source (that’s one of the key differences between GPL 2 and 3 and why Linus refuses to use GPL 3). That said the problem with Windows at this point isn’t really the kernel, it’s all the user space crap they built on top of it.

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      I remember that rumor for windows 11, I was really hopeful.

      I don’t think they really make money in windows itself.

      Why don’t they just come to linux and sell their server stuff there to keep people in that ecosystem?

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    Get out your popcorn because this should be fun to watch. They’re already vibe coding all of the value and stability out of their OS.

    As someone who only still has a Window install because Wine can’t handle the CAD tools I rely on, I look forward to the day when Linux becomes a more attractive platform to release professional software for. I’m not holding my breath for the Year of the Linux Desktop but I can certainly enjoy the ride of MS’s self sabotage to get there.

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        WinBoat is amazing, but it doesn’t have GPU passthrough yet. That one feature is the holy grail for Windows virtualization on Linux. I hope the WinBoat team can solve it.

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          I’m afraid that’s going to be a long way off.

          KVM can do it, but usually only to one kernel. Not sure if you can have multiple kernels handling one GPU.