cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/40891725
White House pushing Sir Keir Starmer to make concessions on food standards
Donald Trump is demanding American chlorinated chicken be sold in British supermarkets.
The White House is pushing Sir Keir Starmer to make concessions on food standards in order to revive a transatlantic tech partnership that drastically collapsed on Tuesday.
Jamieson Greer, the US trade envoy, wants Britain to accept hormone-treated chicken and beef, a term he was not able to achieve when the wider US-UK trade deal was first signed in May.
“He is seeking to use the tech partnership as leverage on trade deal concessions he still wants but that didn’t get the first round,” a source close to the negotiations told The Telegraph.
The US pulled the tech prosperity agreement over complaints Britain’s Online Safety Act would police American AI companies. Washington is using this complaint in order to secure fresh compromises in its trade deal with London, The Telegraph understands.
Insiders say the tech agreement collapsed in part because of the absence of an ambassador to Washington, a post which has remained vacant since Lord Mandelson was fired in September over his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein.
If you want cheap chickens and eggs for billions of humans, factory farming is a necessity. If you factory farm, there has to be a safe level of salmonella allowed, or nuke the whole facility over any infection. Also, if you factory farm, there will be wild price swings in chicken and eggs as factories are nuked for bird flu infections.
But we have choices!
a) Cook your fucking chicken and eggs.
b) Don’t eat chicken or eggs.
c) Grow your own.
And for my British friends:
d) Boycott American chicken.
Eat my gross chicken or we can’t be friends is peak US GOP behavior.
The dying US empire is sucking it’s allies dry
It’s alienating its allies so they cease to be allies
America only needs Israel and no one else ❤️❤️❤️
I don’t think the Trump admin knows anyone who isn’t associated with Epstein, so they can’t really fill the vacancy
The Red Coats should tell MAGA to shove it where the sun does not shine. If the UK allows sub-standard meat into their market, be sure to educate the consumers about it.
Lads, do you remember the Boston Tea Party? It’s payback time!
London Tender Dinner?
Devonshire Disinfectant Dinner?
Birmingham Bleach Banquet?
Hampshire Hormone Hootenanny?
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This was the promise of Brexit - no more of those pesky, overbearing EU safety regulations in exchange for trading deals with the devil for bad products that don’t come CLOSE to replacing what was lost.
ew. i’m statesian and i won’t buy that shit.
On second thought, how about we turn back to the EU
IIRC it’s not just hormones it’s bleached because we consider chicken with salmonella to still be fit for consumption. Our farming processes are so bad that we have to bleach the chicken to attempt to mitigate the hearth hazard.
It’s honestly embarrassing. Every time I hear about an ecoli outbreak on leafy greens, I’m bewildered on how hard it is for our farmers to keep cow shit out of their crops.
It’s human shit because we pay field workers by the amount they harvest and ensure that they are so poor and desperate that they would rather shit in the crop than lose out on a few cents of wages and walk a mile to the nearest bathroom, if one is even provided at all.
It’s not just cows.
Soiling greens is people?
S-tier work there.
I see what you did there 😁
And yes, some countries use human faeces as a fertiliser. Not sure if that’s the case in the UK though… I doubt it, the literal and figurative shit storm that would create… 😬
Also farm workers not allowed to leave the field to go to the bathroom.
Amazon Farms™
The USDA has banned hormones and steroids since the 50s and like 5% of chicken gets the (perfectly safe) chlorine rinse. European countries use the same rinse on leafy vegetables, they just banned it on poultry because they thought it would make processors complacent.
You raise good points, though I think the issue stands that our processors and farmers are extremely complacent to the point of being negligent. I can’t exactly fault Europe for not wanting any part of that, they generally care much more about food quality than we do here.
Regulations are only as good as their enforcement. The US has pretty good food safety laws (the discrepancies with the EU tend to be our “prove it’s bad” rather than “prove it’s not bad” stance on common-use ingredients and additives.) particularly with labeling. We don’t have fresh raw cheeses because we decided the best Brie wasn’t worth occasional listeria outbreaks.
Noooo we’re not looking for facts here, it’s a white supremicist corclejerk!
America has been trying to get us to legalise their shitty chicken for years, fuck right off. We produce our own locally to a much higher standard.
I’ll buy your Good & Plenty though, my gawd that tastes goooood
I’m not advocating for American chlorinated chicken, but I’m not sure our chicken is to a much higher standard. Over the last few years I’ve noticed a decline in the quality of our chicken from white striping to woody breast. I guess this is caused by them using breeds that grow quickly.
And now the UK left the EU, they have way less bargaining power.
Wait. No. That can’t be right.
We were supposed to be able to get much better deals when we could negotiate our own. /s
Honestly, I don’t understand how anyone fell for that line. How can a single country have more negotiating power than 28 countries including that single country?
Only a small portion of US chicken gets the chlorine rinse, a practice that the EU recognized as perfectly safe by the way. They banned it because they didn’t want poultry processors to get lazy about other hygiene practices. They don’t import American chicken because the cost difference would destroy the local farms.
No, it all does. It’s not Safe. You can stick it up your bum.
“La la la I make up my own facts” is an embarrassing stance to upvote, let alone put forth as an honest argument.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47440562
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7015476/
There’s ongoing study about safe exposure levels, but the usefulness of animal studies is limited (mice are a poor metabolic analogue). The World Health Organization stands by 0.7mg/liter in water for chlorate and the key thing being looked at is how much remains on food as residue.
They don’t import American chicken because the cost difference would destroy the local farms.
Surely the local farms can produce chickens cheaper than importing them across the Atlantic. I know we have cheap goods here, but not that cheap.
Had cheap goods. With the way our food costs have exploded in the last five years we almost certainly wouldn’t have leverage over local production.
Ignoring that, the behavior that protectionist trade laws are avoiding is: Country A using tax subsidies to artifically deflate the cost of a good, flooding the market of Country B where it isn’t subsidized and eventually putting the producers there out of business so they become reliant on trade with Country A. Protectionism like this isn’t wrong, but people generally don’t like being told that they’re being barred from less expensive options so it gets dressed up in nationalism.
Are you my Grandpa? The only one I know who eats Good & Plenty
I demand my butthole be tounged repeatedly.
Salmonella, Yummy!
Yeah not going to be buying that shit, no thank you
They will obscure its origin then.
Except that’s not how it works in UK, you have to list the country of origin on the packaging and if that somehow gets repealed, you still have local suppliers who actually tell you from which farm items come from that you can verify yourself.
yes there are ways around alot of this, but they take time to implement and those of us who care will find a way to avoid. Which i fully intend to.
I urge you to learn about olive oil fraud.
Chicken in Europe tastes so much better than in the USA
Life in Europe tastes better than in the USA.
Is it because they think black people like chicken, so they make the chicken bad?
What the fuck?
See also: Bleached flour
I heard that in the US they even bleach their assholes.
What do anal bleach and cell phones have in common?
They both change your ring tone!
Nah. Just spray tan them.
